THEY SAY, YOU SAY  
How to answer believers

Someone tells you the government is hiding extraterrestrial craft. Or they can communicate with the dead. Or so-and-so predicted September 11. Or that Sagittarians are artistic. Or prayer brings miraculous recoveries.

As a critical thinker, your first reply is, "That's nice. What's the evidence for that?"

But ninety-nine times out of a hundred, instead of getting evidence, you'll hear the many fallacious arguments used to support uncritical acceptance of paranormal or pseudoscientific claims. Here's a guide to those statements and how a skeptic can answer them succinctly and effectively.

Click on any one of these statements to get the skeptical reply
or scroll down further to read them all with the answers:

"I know it's true because I had this personal experience...."

"So many people reported it. They can't all be wrong."

"Scientists said raining frogs (or some other strange occurrence) was impossible too, and it turned out to be true."

"They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Columbus...."

"It's been proven in studies (or experiments)."

"It's been written up in such-and-such a magazine."

"You can't prove it doesn't exist."

"I'm a skeptic too."

"I used to be skeptical too but then...."

"You skeptics don't believe anything."

"Einstein proved it."

"According to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle...."

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

"You think you have all the answers."

"You skeptics are so closed-minded."

"Well, it's just my opinion."

 


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"I know it's true because I had this personal experience...." "That's interesting. But people often have subjective experiences that turn out to have been misleading. Do you have any external evidence to corroborate it?"
Note that rather than implying the believers are deluded, mistaken or lying—which just insults them, ends the discussion and convinces them you are closed-minded—the aim is to turn their attention away from unreliable subjective experience toward considering objective evidence that someone else can accept.

Some people who report personal experience of paranormal phenomena may indeed be deluded, mistaken or lying. But telling them this does not convince them to reconsider, nor persuade anyone else who may be listening to be skeptical.

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"So many people reported it. They can't all be wrong." "Millions of people saw David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear. So did it really disappear?"
"But that was just one incident. Thousands of people have seen UFOs (or whatever) all over the world. All the reports couldn't have been wrong." "Sure they could. History is full of examples in which thousands of people reported seeing things that didn't exist. Long before extraterrestrials were ever dreamed of, sailors used to report seeing mermaids at sea. People in numerous ancient and modern societies have had visions of the spirits or demons that their culture led them to believe existed...."
You can probably think of more examples yourself of things that were widely reported or believed, to later be disproved. Explain this to the believers, then go on to explain the factors that contribute to illusions in whatever paranormal field you're discussing. Such as how planets, aircrafts and earthly lights bouncing off clouds or atmospheric layers can create the impression of strange air-borne vehicles for even expert witnesses, if the discussion is about UFO reports.

You might also want to point out that each single report has to stand on its own merits. People tend to think that if you take a lot of unreliable reports and put them together the sheer volume makes them more reliable, but a little reflection should show this is illogical. It's like collecting a truckload of empty bottles and then reasoning, "There are so many bottles here, they can't all be empty."

You can also point out that anecdotes (personal reports of experiences) are fun to talk about but they don't prove anything. All we're asking for is one bit of concrete evidence to back them up:

"With all those thousands of reported incidents you talk about, how come we haven't got a single scrap of material evidence to support them?"

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"Scientists said raining frogs (or some other strange occurrence) was impossible too, and it turned out to be true." "That was proven to be true because hard evidence was eventually produced. That's all we're asking for in this case—evidence."
Skeptics do not go around attacking strange phenomena as impossible—we only attack beliefs being accepted uncritically.

Now, some claims such as perpetual motion machines are indeed "impossible" according to the basic laws of nature we have learned. But even here the smart skeptic points out the seeming contradiction and asks for evidence or reasons strong enough to justify overthrowing a law that have been concluded from millions of other experiments and observations over many years.

You might also point out that raining frogs or other bizarre claims that turn out to be true are extremely rare. In the great majority of cases, extraordinary claims turn out to be false. All the more reason for hard evidence to show why the claim being discussed is the exception.

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"They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Columbus...." "They laughed at Bozo too!"
That's the joking rejoinder, courtesy of James Randi.

The believer's argument is that, since certain great ideas were once rejected, the rejection of their own ideas proves these too are great ideas. This, of course, is fallacious reasoning. Besides, most great ideas were not ridiculed when they were introduced. Galileo's ideas were taken very seriously, although they ran afoul of the church. And, please, let's drop the myth once and for all that Columbus proved the world was round against flat-earth believers. Since at least the third century BCE, people have accepted the sphericity of the earth. Columbus's claim was that he could find a passage to the Orient—which he failed to do.

However, the honest skeptic is not out to ridicule anyone's ideas. We're simply asking why claims should be supported. So the more sincere reply to this kind of statement is:

"Your claim has to stand or fall on the evidence, just as Galileo's and Columbus's views did eventually. So I'm not laughing at you—I'm asking for the evidence."

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"It's been proven in studies (or experiments)." "What studies (or experiments) were those? Could I see them?"
It's very likely the believers will not be acquainted with the studies they claim support them. "I don't know where exactly. I've just heard about it."
"So you don't really know if those studies exist, or if they prove what you may have heard they do?"
They might say they'll show you the studies some time in the future. (You'll never see them.)

Of course, if you can rattle off studies, experiments or investigations of your own to disprove their claims, that's even better.

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"It's been written up in such-and-such a magazine." "In Fate magazine? Do you understand why this publication is not a credible source? Do you know the difference between this and a peer-reviewed publication in which facts, reasoning, and experimental protocols are rigorously checked to filter out errors, experimenter bias, and fraud?"
On the off-chance they say it's been written up in some credible scientific publication like Nature or JAMA, you'll have to press to get the date or issue information, though it's unlikely you will.  Unfortunately, although their information is probably wrong, you can't do much about it in the course of an impromptu discussion, apart from saying it's strange you haven't heard about it because it would be very big news if a major science publication proved the existence of ESP (or whatever), but you'll look it up. While keeping a skeptical attitude, it's important to appear fair and interested in all evidence rather than be dogmatically negative.

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"You can't prove it doesn't exist." "You can't prove there's no tooth fairy either."
It's notoriously difficult to prove a universal negative—that any particular thing does not exist anywhere, any time, anyhow in the world. No matter how far and long and hard you look without finding it, there's always the theoretical possibility it exists somewhere else, at some other time, or in some other fashion. It's a lot easier to prove that something does exist—just provide one tooth fairy and you've proven your point.

The onus should be on the persons making an extraordinary claim to prove it, not for others to prove the extraordinary claim is wrong:

"Since no compelling evidence has been presented to show it does exist, and it is a rather extraordinary claim, why should either of us believe it?"

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"I'm a skeptic too." "That's great. Because you must know that a skeptic keeps an open mind to all possibilities, considering any new evidence for or against their established views. So let's look at the evidence for and against the phenomenon we're discussing...."
If I had a nickel for every time I've heard "I'm a skeptic too"—and from some of the most gullible people I've ever met—I'd be as rich as John Edward. Psychics also like to say this as a debating trick to put you off guard.

But you have to try not to laugh in their faces and use it to turn the discussion away from personalities to a consideration of the facts and the reasoning.

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"I used to be skeptical too but then...." "You know, I believe in a lot of things too. But I've never given up being skeptical and open-minded. I hope you haven't either."
Similar to the response to the preceding statement. Hopefully they won't want to admit they have developed a closed mind and this will lead to a discussion of the evidence.

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"You skeptics don't believe anything." "I believe all kinds of things but I don't accept things uncritically. Once a skeptic finds good reasons to believe something, we keep an open mind in case we find other reasons to reconsider our beliefs. That's what I'm asking you for—evidence and reasoning to support what you say. Isn't that sensible?"
There have been a few philosophical skeptics in history who claimed not to believe anything, but modern skeptics are critical thinkers who accept claims (that is, believe things) based on evidence and reason—until we find evidence and reasons to lead us to revise our beliefs. In this way, we are much more open to various beliefs than paranormal buffs who adopt a set of beliefs that they hold onto regardless of contrary evidence.

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"Einstein proved it." "He didn't do any such thing!"
Any statement about the paranormal and beginning with "Einstein proved..." is almost guaranteed to be a misquote. As the world's most famous genius, poor Albert has had his name attached to every crackpot idea of the past century.

"Einstein proved time travel was possible." Uh, where exactly did he say this? He discussed it only indirectly in reference to time passing at different rates for people travelling at vastly different speeds (one of them near light speed).

"Einstein proved everything is relative." And therefore anything is possible, supposedly. Einstein's general theory of relativity, on one interpretation, had to do with abandoning the notions of absolute space and time, replacing them with space and time defined by the objects in them. It definitely was not about everything being relative or about all claims being equally true.

"Einstein believed in the supernatural." If you're referring to God, yes, Einstein used the G-word several times, but his God was far from the familiar kind of personal, miracle-dispensing Deity who involves Himself in our lives. It was more like a synonym for the Universe, or the Laws of Nature, which would make him an atheist or agnostic in many books. A belief in some kind of God is held by some brilliant scientists and thinkers, but this does not justify belief in paranormal phenomena which require evidence quite apart from personal beliefs.

"Einstein proved ESP exists." "Einstein's theory of relativity showed perpetual motion is possible." "Einstein proved..." No, no, no, he didn't.

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"According to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle...." "You're misapplying that principle. "
Physicist Werner Heisenberg's uncertainty (or indeterminacy) principle came out of contradictions raised by quantum mechanics in the 1920s and 1930s. It applies only to subatomic particles, showing that we cannot know, for example, both the position and the momentum of the same particle. Some paranormal buffs have usurped the principle to claim it shows we cannot apply normal logic and the rules of evidence to paranormal phenomena. But the widest scientific interpretation of Heisenberg's principle is that it concerns only certain characteristics of particles in the sub-microscopic world, not entities in the macro world in which we live and concerning which we can indeed determine a great deal.

(Einstein, by the way, argued long and hard against the uncertainty principle.)

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When they say...

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"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." "You wanna compare dreams? Try getting your mind around the curvature of space and time, or quantum flux, or the creation of the universe in the Big Bang, or the evolution of humans from single-celled creatures, or even the invention of television. These are things not only thought up by science but proven possible. Way beyond the paltry fantasies of psychics. Ghosts and horoscopes? Phooey! Kiddies' stuff."
That's the serious answer. Believers in the paranormal love to quote this bit of Shakespeare, as though it's an endorsement of psychic phenomena by one of history's great writers. I'm also tempted to answer:
"What's Horatio's philosophy got to do with it?"
You see, the quote isn't necessarily Shakespeare speaking, only one of his somewhat unbalanced characters, Hamlet, chastising a friend. Some scholars, by the way, think Shakespeare's wording was actually "dreamt of in our philosophy", which would cast a different light on the quote. Throw that bit of trivia in the next time you hear it to show you know the bard better than they do.

Or, if you're dealing with an astrology buff, give them that other famous Shakespearean quote:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves."

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"You think you have all the answers." "I wish! But no, I don't have all the answers. What I have is questions. Is there some reason I shouldn't question these things?"

Deflect the attention from the ad hominem attack on yourself and keep it where it belongs—on the claims being made. The onus is on the person making the extraordinary claims to show why they should be believed and to account for contrary evidence or reasoning. 

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"You're so close-minded." "I try to have an open mind, but not so open my brains fall out."
Another Randi-ism. Say it with a smile, so they won't be insulted, and follow it up quickly with an explanation about how you think we should judge everything critically but, once we have compelling evidence and reason for claims, we should accept them—always keeping our minds open enough to consider any new evidence that could cause us to reconsider our beliefs.
"Are you also willing to keep an open mind to consider evidence and critical thinking that might question your beliefs?"

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"Well, it's just my opinion." "Right."
When they say, "It's just my opinion", you know the discussion is practically over. They have nothing more to support their claims.

There's a widespread view that all beliefs are equally valid. People mix up the ideal of everyone having equal rights to their opinions with the silly notion of everyone's opinions being equal. You can explain this but, when people make this pointless statement with finality, there's usually not much more you can do to convince them.

You can try to push on by saying, "I understand it's your opinion but the issue is whether there are good reasons for that opinion. If not, maybe you should reconsider."

There's a chance that, unwilling to lose face before you, they'll nevertheless keep your points in mind and consider them in private later.

It could happen.

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